Satan's Song opties

[andante]

Hi,

I haven't read the book yet (as it's not available here in the US at the moment) but I'm very curious what you guys think about it. I've read many of your posts but since they're all in Dutch I figured I'll ask this question here in the English section so that I can better understand what you say.
So, what are your reactions? Did you like what the author has to say? Does the book throw some light on the Just Judges and Rennes le Chateau? Is there no longer a mystery or are we still in the dark?

Thanks,
andante

[TheTiger]

I think we're still in the dark i haven't read this book also but you can read here something about it.
In the meantime a lawyer in los Angeles examines the possibilities to bring Satan's Song in America on the market.

[Eginolf]

Tom R. is supposedly dutch.
Philippe de Cherisey, the grey eminence behind Plantard, had belgian roots. Maybe he is Tom.
In his book "The Church of Mary Magdalene" (2004 translated into english) Jean Markale writes (on page 211) about the friendship between Cherisey and FRANCIS BLANCHE.
Cherisey had been to RLC in 1961 and heard that after Sauniere's death the town hall burned down (along with its archives) and so he took advantage of the situation to invent a story about the parchments.
Francis Blanche had a radio program named "Signé Furax" where for instance he created a "psychiatric clinic for loco weeds"!
Blanche asked Cherisey to manufacture false documents and send them to him to be used in Signé Furax.
And then Cherisey managed to pass these "documents" to Gérard de Sède ... and the results surpassed his wildest dreams.
And the story began ...

Dit bericht is bewerkt door Eginolf: Oct 30 2006, 14:06

[andante]

Not many takers so far but that's ok. Thanks.

I have another question; is the city of Moulins (France) featured in the book at all?

andante

[Ahatmose]

Hi Eginolf.

You wrote ...

Tom R. is supposedly dutch.
Philippe de Cherisey, the grey eminence behind Plantard, had belgian roots. Maybe he is Tom.
In his book "The Church of Mary Magdalene" (2004 translated into english) Jean Markale writes (on page 211) about the friendship between Cherisey and FRANCIS BLANCHE.
Cherisey had been to RLC in 1961 and heard that after Sauniere's death the town hall burned down (along with its archives) and so he took advantage of the situation to invent a story about the parchments.
Francis Blanche had a radio program named "Signé Furax" where for instance he created a "psychiatric clinic for loco weeds"!
Blanche asked Cherisey to manufacture false documents and send them to him to be used in Signé Furax.
And then Cherisey managed to pass these "documents" to Gérard de Sède ... and the results surpassed his wildest dreams.
And the story began ...

I have also thought in that direction. It is the perfect cover and hiding place. Create clues that can obviously be proven false and then allow the secret and the mystery to fade into obscurity.

Yes I also think that maybe Philippe de Cherisey was indeed Tom R.

Wonder what Paul Smith would say to that ...

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Don Barone

[CR=10]

Wasn't the son of Plantard called Thomas?
Yes, I think we should look for Tom R. in the direction of Plantard & Cherisey.

[Ahatmose]

Hi CR=10

If you know anything about Paul Smith he is positively obsessed with proving that this is all a hoax devised by Philippe de Cherisey and Plantard. It drives him crazy that I never challenge his work but continue to search for the mystery ignoring all the "false clues" that the two of them left.

Yes they definitely planted false clues but how do we know what is true and what is false ?

Hmmmm ....

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Don Barone

[CR=10]

Anyone with an interrest for this mystery comes across Paul Smith...
Yes, he is frustrated! The way he tries to make is point is really.. whatever!

It was the part I really liked in the book Satan's song. The casual way it was written that the Rennes le Chateau part is a hoax. Years of research down the drain!

Still I feel everybody has to go his own way.
I myself don't always see the points that seem so obvious to you. I have been reading your theories for some years now! The paintings, the lines, the pyramids!

But the meridian - yes, that's Da Vinci Code stuff. But also the Holy Blood and Holy Grain mentions it, if I remember correctly.

Grain = grail (slip of the tongue!)

[Eginolf]

Yes I also think that maybe Philippe de Cherisey was indeed Tom R.

Cherisey died in 1985. Tom R. (according to Karl Hammer) lived until 2000, in London.

[OliIV]

Yes I also think that maybe Philippe de Cherisey was indeed Tom R.

Cherisey died in 1985. Tom R. (according to Karl Hammer) lived until 2000, in London.

I've read the most of this book. It was official published on september 11, 2006. Not as a coincidence, but that's another story...

Tom R. was a Dutchman, who studied art in London during WW II. He was asked by the secondary for the Dutch queen Wilhelmina to search for the stolen art by the Nazi.

After he got a little box with some documents concerning the Just Judgeds, he seemed to have had a CIAorder to search for it.

After the war he met an Austrian girl, named Elfrieda. He married her and they to Paris. They lived there, until his death, a few years before Karl published Tom's story.

So I think that not de Cherisey was Tom R.

[Ahatmose]

Hi all.

Thanks for the information on Tom R. and Philippe de Cherisey. We will have to look elsewhere it appears. However since much of what Plantard and de Cherisey wrote sems to have been planted information do you think maybe we can assume they were working with or for Tom R. ?

And does Karl explain in the book where he got all this information ?

For that matter if it was such a deep, deep secret have any considered how it is Karl was allowed to publish the book at all ?

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Don Barone

[CR=10]

...

And does Karl explain in the book where he got all this information ?

For that matter if it was such a deep, deep secret have any considered how it is Karl was allowed to publish the book at all ?

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Don Barone

Karl is just "quoting" Tom R.
When I read for the first time that Tom R died in 2000 I thought of Plantard. But I kind of think this Biography of Tom, mentioned by Olivon, might be partly true. But hey... Tom R. is supposed to remain an unknown person... so you wouldn't really make any links to Plantard or Cheresey of De Sede. That would be too obvious.

[Ahatmose]

Hi all !!!

How has everyone been ?

Anyway I have just been thinking what the devil is the holdup with the publication of Satan's Song in English ? I know all about the CIA and FBI holding it up and how it sits in an office of a lawyer in Los Angeles but I was assurred, actually promised, by Karl Hammer that should it be held up it would be released in English onto the internet.

Has anyone found it online and further has anyone heard from Karl Hammer aka Mark Harlem ?

Hi Karl - are you out there ?

Just hope he didn't meet Celestine's fate.

Best and ever forward
Don Barone

[CR=10]

Hi Don, nice to see you again.

Have a peek (little bit of dutch and lots of english): Questions

[Ahatmose]

Hi Maria (Is this correct ? - been a long time )

Thanks for the link but until I have read it and searched for the meaning within Karl's meanings I really don't think there is enough written to help me yet. He was always very cryptic and I doubt whether his book would have been any different. It still worries me however that he has dropped out of site. I know I received his letter that he was going into seclusion but frankly, and I apologize for seeing conspiracies everywhere, that could have been written by anyone. Given what he told me his position was in Holland I find it hard to believe he would give it all up to become a recluse. Something as usual is just not right.

He oft times mentioned it was indeed a war, and a war of good against evil.

Interestingly I was cleaning out a drawer today and found some private emails written to me warning me about Karl ( I had saved them under an obscure title and printed them out ages ago) written by a man calling himself Khamir back in 2001. Maybe I will post them here for a reaction.

Best and it's good to be back
and ... Ever Forward
Don Barone